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Bottled Water

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Andrew O'Connor
Andrew O'Connor | Mar 22, 2015 | in Water Aware

Did you know bottled water costs 2000x more than tap water???!!

Perhaps the most incredible number: at an average cost of $1.22 per gallon, consumers are spending 300 times the cost of tap water to drink bottled water.

The [bottled water] industry grossed a total of $11.8 billion on those 9.7 billion gallons in 2012, making bottled water about $1.22/gallon nationwide and 300x the cost of a gallon of tap water," Colas says. "If we take into account the fact that almost 2/3 of all bottled water sales are single 16.9oz (500 mL) bottles, though, this cost is much, much higher: about $7.50 per gallon, according to the American Water Works Association. That’s almost 2,000x the cost of a gallon of tap water and twice the cost of a gallon of regular gasoline.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/bottled-water-...7#ixzz3V71ZZfuL

George Richardson Mar 22, 2015

aoc27 a wonderful link with superb information. I have never understood the lunacy of buying bottled water and adding millions of plastic bottles to add to the worlds litter problems. I Just turn on the tap and there it is.  I had occasion one very hot summer day to call in at a motorway service station, having used the continuously flushing toilets,rather than queue for coffee i bought a bottle of water.  £1,treasured that water all the way home.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 22, 2015

thanks George!you don't need to buy bottled water when you have it fresh on tap, it is such a waste!for work i bring a bottle of water with me filled with my filtered water, saves buying bottled water all the time as as you said adding to the litter problem

mark burns Mar 22, 2015

i buy bottled water to take to the gym with me, i find the that the gym charges ridiculous prices, but i get a pack of 8 from iceland for a £1

Louis Allen Mar 25, 2015

thats a good price from iceland

Andrew O'Connor Mar 22, 2015

yeah some places charge a crazy price for water! i like to just fill up my water bottle from home 

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

I have several Camelbak water bottles - fill up and use on the go... I cycle (see picture) so am used to having water bottles where I fill up, and no need to buy the bottled variety - unless at a pinch!

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

I don't see the point in buying bottled water when there is a good fresh supply from our taps. I just fill up my bottle from home if I'm going anywhere

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Louis Allen Mar 22, 2015

good statistics but some bottled water companies charge over £10 a bottle

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

I think there was some outrage a few years ago when a restaurant charged a silly price for bottled water... it was as much as a bottle of wine!

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

yeah this is shocking! I think most people wouldn't mind paying a small price but this is too much

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

that is ridiculous!who would pay £10 for a bottle of water, not worth even £2

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George Richardson Mar 22, 2015

That really is crazy and O.T.T.  Some people know neither the cost or value of anything.

anita lewis Mar 22, 2015

At my sons school they are encouraged to take a waterbottle in everyday to refill as necessary.i think they do this at a lot of schools which is good fro the environment going forward but one of the reasons bought bottled water is so popular is the need for it to be chilled , never mind the taste issues in some areas.

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

There is also the concern among some about the addition of fluoride... if you look at some alternative health sites... you must filter tap water for it to be any good!

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

I always use my filtered water jug

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

I have a water filter attached to a drinking tap in the kitchen - costs a bit to install, and new filters aren't cheap.... but it works well.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

I just use the jug, it is a bit annoying to have to replace the filter every so often but I use it for a long time before changing

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

that's great that your sons school is doing this to encourage positive thinking

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Louis Allen Mar 22, 2015

indeed I use water bottles they are great and easily refillable in quite a few places

Lewis Jones Mar 23, 2015

Until society actually 'values' water - something we actually need to stay alive!! - we will always be in the 'mess' we are now.

South West Water's 'finest' = 0.2p per litre; unleaded petrol = £1.29/l; Diesel = £1.36/l; Coca-Cola = £2.80/l; Beer = £6/l; Wine =£8/l; and 'Berg', a designer bottled water sold in London's top restaurant = £30/l.

Now I like most of the above - but the one thing I can't go without I pay a pittance for. Madness!!

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

people don't care about water it is not expensive, if the prices were to go up people would quickly pay attention!

Louis Allen Mar 23, 2015

shocking prices nowadays

Katie Walsh Mar 23, 2015

Thought you might be interested in this post from Adrian,  we discussed not having drinking quality water on tap, let me see if I can find it...here.Adrian's Only Bottled! https://watertalkers.crowdicity.com/post/87305- sort of the opposite of this one.

Lewis Jones Mar 23, 2015

Agreed. Always an interesting debate - why spend so much time, energy, money and chemicals to produce a product that is 99.9+% compliant with EC and UK Water Quality regulations, then pump it (more energy) around the country (losing a lot in leakage) to customers who pay peanuts for it - and use most of their daily 'consumption' washing the car; watering the garden; flushing the loo; etc; etc; and actually drink very little??

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

it takes a lot of work to do this and money!i drink quite a bit of water each day and put it through my filter jug before drinking to make it even nicer ;)

Louis Allen Mar 25, 2015

I love the brita filter system

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

me too, really makes the difference

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

So true... that is why in some countries the water pumped to the house is not potable!

Interesting, on caravan sites.. I have a mental block about how can an outside tap provide drinkable quality water... husband says I'm bonkers of course!

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Qualitycurls Mar 23, 2015

it would be great if those bottled water companies had to pay some % to get clean water to areas that don't have it

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

good idea!

David Simoes-Brown Mar 27, 2015

Yes I agree: Here's one solution that I have come across:   http://www.life-water.co.uk/

Louis Allen Mar 27, 2015

great link and good idea

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Janet Bradley Mar 24, 2015

I can't post any more ideas, but your post has made me think of something - pure water window cleaning!!

I note that many window cleaners are moving over to pole cleaning, and particularly a pure water version. I am not with the science, but I understand that this pure water means that the windows can be got cleaner without the use of any soap.

However, I understand that to create pure water, a lot of water has to be wasted in the process - its filtered and refiltered etc, and the non pure water rejected.

I know that the window cleaners who cleanse water to make pure water will do so at houses, or establishments where there is no water meter..... so it doesn't matter how much water it takes to create the pure water.

For those of you who have your windows cleaned with pure water... do you realise how much water is actually being used to clean your windows? It's not the water you see being used... it's all the water that went down the plughole already.

George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

I was not aware of that, but health and safety drive them off the ladders and i now have no aternative.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

that's true much easier to use extendable poles instead

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

It is.. it helps the working at height issue.. but it does use a ridiculous amount of water!

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George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

One thing i did find out today,is that in Calderdale now plastic bottles are being recycled after collection. Council i believe collect,deliver to local firm ,who process them for alternative uses,

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

I have a Danish upbringing. Plastic and glass bottles have been recycled there as long as I can remember, I have no idea why this concept is so alien in this country.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

that's good they have a long history of recycling

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

Yes, you take your empty bottles back to the supermarket - either individually or in crates... There is a bottle recycling station where you put your empty bottles and crates through, and it assesses what you are returning, and prints out a voucher for the value of your bottles and crates... the voucher is then used against your next shop. It's easy, and takes seconds.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

ohhh that sounds good!that would encourage people to recycle as they are being rewarded!

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

It does encourage.. and its a way of life.. I think we live in a throw away society... throw away jars, bottles, and we don't have to worry about the water that is thrown away as it just comes on tap.... a lot of people just don't care.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

good they are doing their bit, hopefully most other councils if not all are doing the same

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Tim Compton Mar 25, 2015

This is a fascinating conversation! Does anybody remember the adverts from the 80s when water was privatised? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvv_-tyKDfQ This is where they imagined water being delivered like milk to your door!! Would this type of message resonate with people and encourage water efficiency (using the direct link to bottle water rather than milk?)

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

I had never seen that before - really interesting.. brilliant imagery with the crates piled up outside the front doors!

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

might do but I suppose this would use so many more bottles to deliver. would be good if they could be recycled each time.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

unfortunately I am too young to remember this advert, very good though!

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Louis Allen Mar 25, 2015

i remember that advert would work quite well now i think

Tim Compton Mar 25, 2015

Full disclosure I am a little too young as well but a colleague shared it with me a while back at it really resonated! Andrew's idea about bottle water is did the same thing! How could we use both improve water awareness and encourage people to get involved with water saving? Something like a video or game where people use bottled for all the things they do with tap water?

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

Aha... great minds think alike...I have posted a thought about creating a computer game elsewhere.. my mind had gone down the thought of using Minecraft building... your idea I can see working well.

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

I really like this idea for a Minecraft type game

Louis Allen Mar 27, 2015

minecraft is very popular with kids

Janet Bradley Mar 27, 2015

every kid of a certain age seems to be addicted to mine craft, so would be good to work with it

Andrew O'Connor Mar 25, 2015

would be good to help raise the issue via a video or advert

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George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

The scandinavians have the knack of living a common sense life,something that seems to have deserted our culture over the past 50 years.

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

Scandinavians often consider environmental issues and great design at the same time. I think that is one of the things that often make their concepts easily adoptable.

George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

Absolutely.

Louis Allen Mar 27, 2015

I agree with you the scandanavians seem to going forward

Janet Bradley Mar 27, 2015

I am very biased on this point and totally agree.

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Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

Many places in Scandinavia have a different concept with regards to their central heating.... power plants heat water, and hot water is pumped to houses for use in radiators, and in Iceland, even to use for showers. This doesn't need to be potable water, and therefore, as treated as drinking water.. it's an alien concept here in this country, but it works!

George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

There are many places where bottled water can be bought cheaper,but this is just exasserpating the situation. Still no where near as cheap as tap water.

George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

Glad to hear about other plastic bottles recycling issues.

George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

Scandinavian countries have used the energy already invested in heating water,for other uses for years as you say aster1x, and have never understood why we have always wasted this source for helping those in need.

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

The best bit about pumping out the hot water to houses for central heating is that it can be laid under the pavements - you can get a melted path during snowy periods, which are safe to walk down as a result!! I grew up with this knowledge, and never understood why it wasn't adopted in this country!

George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

Same hear and like you could never understand why we did not wise up decades ago. The other thing i never understood was why the brilliantly inivative  scandinavians  did not bring thejr ideas over hear so they could export them to us.

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

They brought IKEA and LEGO!

I think that the Scandinavians have tried to bring their concepts and ideas to the UK, but I only think that its in recent years that they are appreciated... people have been a bit stuck in the mud!

Louis Allen Mar 27, 2015

With the help of technology and social sites (like this one!) we can help get the message out there quicker than we could have managed to years ago

Andrew O'Connor Mar 28, 2015

best way to promote things!

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George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

Well we know it all don't we.

Janet Bradley Mar 25, 2015

Yes... many cultures find it hard to learn from others.... I have tried to travel the world to learn from others, and not always accept things as they are presented.

George Richardson Mar 25, 2015

Talking about wells ,this summer everyone should visit Derbyshire  for the Well Dressing Ceremonies A very old custom to give thanks to water.

Janet Bradley Mar 27, 2015

I got an email from Camelbak today about their all clear water bottle

http://shop.camelbak.com/all-clear-bottle/d/1...&&&

It's not as good as the one mentioned by Roland... but its quite neat for UK water.

Louis Allen Mar 27, 2015

ooo good link there very interesting stuff

Janet Bradley Mar 27, 2015

Good to look at all he options

George Richardson Mar 27, 2015

It would appear effort is being already being put in in a thougt full  and rewarding way on many of these problems, if so perhaps Hope does Spring Eternal.

Hannah Smith Mar 27, 2015

Far cheaper to buy a filter jug even with the filters you have to buy.. and the bottles create so much landfill too! 

Janet Bradley Mar 27, 2015

Yes I agree, also need to look for best ways to transport it on the go

Hannah Smith Mar 27, 2015

I actually have a filter bottle.. has a small water filter in the lid which you change.. and you suck from the top or use a straw (provided) . It's from Brita here's the link http://www.brita.co.uk/brita/en-gb/shop/water...?category=offer

Janet Bradley Mar 27, 2015

yes, seen these, they are another great option. Much better than buying bottled water.

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Louis Allen Mar 27, 2015

I agree i see water bottles and plastic rubbish absolutely everywhere it is damaged the earth and the environment

Janet Bradley Mar 27, 2015

I hate litter. There is also the school of thought that if you keep refilling water bottles you can get ill From it. I know there isn't research that proves it, but it's certainly believed within the alternative healthcare community.

George Richardson Mar 27, 2015

I Guess you could rinse bottle and top in a little disinfectant,rinse then use for a while longer. Unless that would start to break down the plastic,which could be dangerous.   Don't know.

Janet Bradley Mar 28, 2015

There is a school of thought that chemicals from the cheap plastics leak out and cause illness. Better to have a proper water bottle and reuse that.

George Richardson Mar 28, 2015

Better to be safe than sorry, so many of the old saws, many forgotten,are even more relative today.

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